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	<title>Comments on: New French Law Seizes Digital Rights</title>
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		<title>By: The New French Legislation: Further Points &#171; Action on Authors&#039; Rights</title>
		<link>http://www.sfwa.org/2012/03/new-french-law-seizes-digital-rights/#comment-120155</link>
		<dc:creator>The New French Legislation: Further Points &#171; Action on Authors&#039; Rights</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2012 02:30:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] originators of the petition of French authors against the law, mentioned in my previous post. In a comment on a blog post about the law on the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America website she says [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] originators of the petition of French authors against the law, mentioned in my previous post. In a comment on a blog post about the law on the Science Fiction and Fantasy Writers of America website she says [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Lucie Chenu</title>
		<link>http://www.sfwa.org/2012/03/new-french-law-seizes-digital-rights/#comment-119146</link>
		<dc:creator>Lucie Chenu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Mar 2012 12:18:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[French writers have discovered this very late, but some of them try to prevent the law to be proclaimed. We can sign a petition, and all foreign authors can sign it too:
http://www.petitionpublique.fr/?pi=P2012N21047
You can add any comment to say you refuse that the translations of your books to be scanned without a contract!

And I&#039;m very sorry for ma very bad practice of English ;-)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>French writers have discovered this very late, but some of them try to prevent the law to be proclaimed. We can sign a petition, and all foreign authors can sign it too:<br />
<a href="http://www.petitionpublique.fr/?pi=P2012N21047" rel="nofollow">http://www.petitionpublique.fr/?pi=P2012N21047</a><br />
You can add any comment to say you refuse that the translations of your books to be scanned without a contract!</p>
<p>And I&#8217;m very sorry for ma very bad practice of English <img src='http://www.sfwa.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Gillian Spraggs</title>
		<link>http://www.sfwa.org/2012/03/new-french-law-seizes-digital-rights/#comment-118920</link>
		<dc:creator>Gillian Spraggs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 19:09:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[&lt;i&gt;when, precisely, does (did) the six month opt-out period start, and where are the instructions for opting out?&lt;/i&gt;

According to the legislation, it will start running at the point when a book is entered in a database to be set up and operated by the Biblioth&#232;que nationale de France (National Library of France). [See Article L. 134&#8211;3]

&#039;Six months after the time when the book is entered in the database &#8230; the right to authorize its reproduction and display in digital form is to be exercised by a collecting and licensing society &#8230;&#039;

&#039;Lorsqu&#039;un livre est inscrit dans la base de donn&#233;es &#8230; depuis plus de six mois, le droit d&#039;autoriser sa reproduction et sa repr&#233;sentation sous une forme num&#233;rique est exerc&#233; par une soci&#233;t&#233; de perception et de r&#233;partition des droits &#8230;&#039; 

During this period authors may opt out by objecting to the book&#039;s inclusion in a written communication to the collecting and licensing society. [See Article. L. 134&#8211;4.] 

Regulations for implementing the new legislation are to be specified in an order made in the Council of State. [See Article. L. 134&#8211;7.]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>when, precisely, does (did) the six month opt-out period start, and where are the instructions for opting out?</i></p>
<p>According to the legislation, it will start running at the point when a book is entered in a database to be set up and operated by the Biblioth&egrave;que nationale de France (National Library of France). [See Article L. 134&ndash;3]</p>
<p>&#8216;Six months after the time when the book is entered in the database &hellip; the right to authorize its reproduction and display in digital form is to be exercised by a collecting and licensing society &hellip;&#8217;</p>
<p>&#8216;Lorsqu&#8217;un livre est inscrit dans la base de donn&eacute;es &hellip; depuis plus de six mois, le droit d&#8217;autoriser sa reproduction et sa repr&eacute;sentation sous une forme num&eacute;rique est exerc&eacute; par une soci&eacute;t&eacute; de perception et de r&eacute;partition des droits &hellip;&#8217; </p>
<p>During this period authors may opt out by objecting to the book&#8217;s inclusion in a written communication to the collecting and licensing society. [See Article. L. 134&ndash;4.] </p>
<p>Regulations for implementing the new legislation are to be specified in an order made in the Council of State. [See Article. L. 134&ndash;7.]</p>
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		<title>By: Elizabeth Moon</title>
		<link>http://www.sfwa.org/2012/03/new-french-law-seizes-digital-rights/#comment-118870</link>
		<dc:creator>Elizabeth Moon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Mar 2012 14:14:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[A couple of important (to authors) things I do not see: when, precisely, does (did) the six month opt-out period start, and where are the instructions for opting out?  Google made the process as rights-owner unfriendly as possible.

The use of &quot;estimates&quot; for orphan works bothers me a lot because of the conflict of interest between those who want to use works without compensating rights-holders and the rights-holders.  As the Authors Guild demonstrated, many potential users will not exert even the slightest effort to determine whether copyright is still in force.  (Google certainly made no effort in that direction: they digitized books of mine that were in print and in the stores.)  There&#039;s potential profit to be made; it&#039;s easy to inflate an estimate to argue for such draconian legislation as this in France (and the earlier arguments in the US.)  And the conflation of &quot;out of print&quot; with &quot;out of copyright&quot; simply must not stand. Authors cannot control whether a book goes out of print for a commercial publisher; they must be allowed to control its subsequent publication and distribution (and of course, the original publisher may bring the book back into print.  Brief &quot;out of print&quot; periods should not risk the author&#039;s rights.)  

A more sensible approach (not that any government or corporation wants to take it) would have been to use the date at which copyright became automatically renewable, and make *that* the landmark date for calculating what is in and what it out of copyright.  All work after that date is presumed to be copyrighted until its creator&#039;s death-plus-70.  All work before that date requires its creator or other rights-holder to opt out.  In-print and out-of-print are irrelevant. 

Papers and images of real historical value (e.g. first half of 20th c. and before) cannot fall under the &quot;creator&#039;s lifetime plus 70 years&quot; of current copyright law and thus may be true orphans if the rights holder has died (or failed to renew copyright, then a requirement.)  And true creative work--fiction and poetry, in our case--should never be subject to rights-grabbing in the name of salvaging &quot;orphan&quot; works.  You can argue that the one surviving photograph of historical value has sufficient cultural importance to be worth using even though its photographer&#039;s grandchildren might have a right (though not if it was taken before the time the copyright law changed.)  But to let a government agency profit from someone&#039;s novel by selling the movie rights to Disney while the author goes hungry?  No.  And to do that to writers not even in one&#039;s own country?  Double no.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of important (to authors) things I do not see: when, precisely, does (did) the six month opt-out period start, and where are the instructions for opting out?  Google made the process as rights-owner unfriendly as possible.</p>
<p>The use of &#8220;estimates&#8221; for orphan works bothers me a lot because of the conflict of interest between those who want to use works without compensating rights-holders and the rights-holders.  As the Authors Guild demonstrated, many potential users will not exert even the slightest effort to determine whether copyright is still in force.  (Google certainly made no effort in that direction: they digitized books of mine that were in print and in the stores.)  There&#8217;s potential profit to be made; it&#8217;s easy to inflate an estimate to argue for such draconian legislation as this in France (and the earlier arguments in the US.)  And the conflation of &#8220;out of print&#8221; with &#8220;out of copyright&#8221; simply must not stand. Authors cannot control whether a book goes out of print for a commercial publisher; they must be allowed to control its subsequent publication and distribution (and of course, the original publisher may bring the book back into print.  Brief &#8220;out of print&#8221; periods should not risk the author&#8217;s rights.)  </p>
<p>A more sensible approach (not that any government or corporation wants to take it) would have been to use the date at which copyright became automatically renewable, and make *that* the landmark date for calculating what is in and what it out of copyright.  All work after that date is presumed to be copyrighted until its creator&#8217;s death-plus-70.  All work before that date requires its creator or other rights-holder to opt out.  In-print and out-of-print are irrelevant. </p>
<p>Papers and images of real historical value (e.g. first half of 20th c. and before) cannot fall under the &#8220;creator&#8217;s lifetime plus 70 years&#8221; of current copyright law and thus may be true orphans if the rights holder has died (or failed to renew copyright, then a requirement.)  And true creative work&#8211;fiction and poetry, in our case&#8211;should never be subject to rights-grabbing in the name of salvaging &#8220;orphan&#8221; works.  You can argue that the one surviving photograph of historical value has sufficient cultural importance to be worth using even though its photographer&#8217;s grandchildren might have a right (though not if it was taken before the time the copyright law changed.)  But to let a government agency profit from someone&#8217;s novel by selling the movie rights to Disney while the author goes hungry?  No.  And to do that to writers not even in one&#8217;s own country?  Double no.</p>
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