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	<title>Comments on: Guest Post: Does Online Writers Workshopping Slow a Writer&#8217;s Growth?</title>
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		<title>By: Karl</title>
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		<dc:creator>Karl</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Interesting. The format of OWW may indeed encourage &quot;too-soft&quot; critiques as you say, since the number of critiques you get may go down if you&#039;re widely despised (or just slightly resented) for giving negative critiques. Critters.org may encourage more honesty, since members there are required to submit a certain number of critiques per month.

But with any workshop made up of beginning writers, part of the problem is that you&#039;re in a workshop made up of beginning writers -- i.e. people who don&#039;t know much of whence they speak. Critiquing, and reading for the purpose of critiquing is a learned skill in itself, and not an easy one.

But still, even as i creep into the realm of &quot;pro,&quot; I&#039;m more than a little wary of leaving OWW and Critters.org behind. The feedback I receive continues to be -- on balance -- helpful and interesting, and has occasionally saved my rear end from embarrassing blunders. 

Just as critiquing is a learned skill, so is learning to glean through the confusing jumble of contradictory and often flat-out wrong opinions you may get in reader critiques.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Interesting. The format of OWW may indeed encourage &#8220;too-soft&#8221; critiques as you say, since the number of critiques you get may go down if you&#8217;re widely despised (or just slightly resented) for giving negative critiques. Critters.org may encourage more honesty, since members there are required to submit a certain number of critiques per month.</p>
<p>But with any workshop made up of beginning writers, part of the problem is that you&#8217;re in a workshop made up of beginning writers &#8212; i.e. people who don&#8217;t know much of whence they speak. Critiquing, and reading for the purpose of critiquing is a learned skill in itself, and not an easy one.</p>
<p>But still, even as i creep into the realm of &#8220;pro,&#8221; I&#8217;m more than a little wary of leaving OWW and Critters.org behind. The feedback I receive continues to be &#8212; on balance &#8212; helpful and interesting, and has occasionally saved my rear end from embarrassing blunders. </p>
<p>Just as critiquing is a learned skill, so is learning to glean through the confusing jumble of contradictory and often flat-out wrong opinions you may get in reader critiques.</p>
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		<title>By: Kaye Draper</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kaye Draper</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Oct 2012 15:08:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Agree! I&#039;m still a newbie, but the first few things I submitted through on-line workshops just left me confused.  For every one person that said I sucked, three more thought the story was awesome.  Critiques of certain components were often contradictory and not so helpful (ie: &quot;I really don&#039;t care for first person point of view.&quot;) It&#039;s tough though, because one thing most people don&#039;t have early on is access to any better source of critiques.  If nothing else, these awkward times in on-line groups help to build confidence.  Maybe we need to flounder through all of that in order to grow :)]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agree! I&#8217;m still a newbie, but the first few things I submitted through on-line workshops just left me confused.  For every one person that said I sucked, three more thought the story was awesome.  Critiques of certain components were often contradictory and not so helpful (ie: &#8220;I really don&#8217;t care for first person point of view.&#8221;) It&#8217;s tough though, because one thing most people don&#8217;t have early on is access to any better source of critiques.  If nothing else, these awkward times in on-line groups help to build confidence.  Maybe we need to flounder through all of that in order to grow <img src='http://www.sfwa.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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